Fox News exonerates ACORN

Of corruption that is, not stupidity.  I still think that just sending people out to register voters on a quasi-commission basis was a dumb move, and my biggest fear isn't that Obama or other Democrats will be tainted with voter fraud charges.  My concern is that this will provide Republicans with more excuse to purge voter rolls and cage anybody registered by ACORN.

Obviously there's no way these false voter registrations can impact the election unless people actually show up to vote under these names.  It doesn't seem likely.  In fact, using celebrity names would be a stupid way to go about it.  This is obviously a problem of ACORN being taken by economically desperate individuals who either should not have been hired at all, or otherwise supervised much more closely.

Ironically, the only coverage I'm finding in the national media which exonerates ACORN in this way is Fox News with this report.  Fox probably doesn't even understand the implication of its own reporting, but we can thank them nevertheless.

   

Barkley said he was approached multiple times by ACORN workers while sitting in a public square. He said the group's solicitors told him they were getting paid by the name to sign up voters.

   "I 'd be like, 'No, I'm already registered,'" Barkley said.

   "Then they just asked me again, like, 'I need a job, I'm just trying to hold on to a job. So would you sign it for me? I need 25 or more. I need a certain amount of them.' So me being the kind-hearted person, I say, 'Yeah.'

   "I didn't know that I'd have to be in here for this," Barkley said.

So unless these employees were working overtime on their own to ensure that the fraudulent voters would show up to vote, there's no institutional corruption. Now, how do you screen people to register voters? Well, you start by not hiring people who have been convicted of identity fraud (very few, but a highlight in the story).

This is now something for Republicans to be righteous about and claim the election was stolen from them, but when you look at the actual facts, there's no there there.



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Nice find (none / 0)

Never attribute to evil what can be attributed to simple stupidity.

I force myself to remember this advice when looking at the right wing shenanigans, too.  Doesn't always work for me.


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 05:31:54 PM EST

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Thanks.  There's just no incentive for ACORN to have done this deliberately.


by Drummond on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 06:30:28 PM EST
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This is a cover story (none / 0)

The Republicans run around purging THOUSANDS of likely democrats from the roles (what was the total in Florida in 2000? 20,000 voters) and this is just a cover story for their activities.

However, there IS revenge coming. We will hold BOTH houses and the WH when redistricting comes up this time...


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 06:42:50 PM EST

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The problem with that is you need to hold the state houses.


by Drummond on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 07:21:48 PM EST

Seems to me (none / 0)

We should pick up some local elections at the state level as well...

This has got to be bad nationwide for Republicans.

Here in WA, I have YET to see an ad that says

BOB JONES, REPUBLICAN.

They all say "Dino Rossi, GOP" or even just the candidates names.

The Democrats have it in BIG BOLD FONT!


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 07:51:05 PM EST
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ACORN's whole MO is that they hire poor people to work with other poor people. Yes, the fake-name thing is a problem, but the question becomes whether it's a BIG problem. Remember, the only ones really suffering from this is ACORN itself, as it's paying for voters who don't exist.
Of course, there's an easy fix for ALL of this mess. Current voter registration stays in place, but in addition, we add nationwide same-day registration with a valid state ID or driver's license.
Your name not on the list? Show a valid ID and you're good.
by EvilAsh on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 07:58:43 PM EST

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and from what I understand, the diarist is wrong, ACORN does NOT pay on a commission just an hourly rate. therefore, they have removed the incentive to falsify voter registrations (though I'm sure people have quotas to meet). but you are right, there's an easily solution but Repubs certainly don't want to make it THAT easy to vote or they'll never win another election again.


by Planet B on Mon Oct 13, 2008 at 09:56:56 PM EST
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I didn't say it.  The guy working for ACORN said it.


by Drummond on Tue Oct 14, 2008 at 12:42:44 AM EST
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Well, okay, I did say it.  But I said it because the worker said it.


by Drummond on Tue Oct 14, 2008 at 12:44:17 AM EST
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Well, the overall point is that is gives responsibility and a temp job to the poorest in this society. Yeah, they may play the system on occasion. But the overall goal is to enable the poorest, and that's not a goal I want to shit on.


by EvilAsh on Sat Oct 18, 2008 at 01:36:55 AM EST
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There are several explanations for this ACORN voter registration business. The first one is obvious: Hiring someone to register people on a commission basis, although not illegal, basically provides an incentive to make up names in order to turn in as many completed forms as possible. Something like this will not effect election results unless the actual person filling out all these forms shows up to vote over and over and over. That's what a Homer Simpson caliber scam looks like; doomed to fail and guranteed to make the culprit look like a boob. I'm sure "Jimmy John's" vote (as in the midwest sandwich chain) will decide this election.... Mr. Burns on the other hand would purge the Michigan voter rolls of black people, and those who lost their homes to foreclosure (now there's a scam worth writing about, huh?). The bogus registrations I saw on CNN were amateurish and obviously fake. State officials were doing their jobs by catching them and setting them aside. These registration forms however were filled out in a such a transparently stupid and pedestrian manner, that another more sinister explanation might be worth considering.
How difficult would it be for a few Republican operatives to infiltrate ACORN and pose as poor people or students in need of a job? And how long would it take ACORN to actually trace these fraudulent registrations to them? By the time someone actually figures out who was walking what neighborhood and what registration forms they turned in... the culprits are long gone, and good luck finding them. Damage done, P.R. stunt successful. You think ACORN is an organization with the funds to conduct thorough background checks, or verify everyones identity before they let them volunteer or get them to register voters for a dollar or two per form? They're an advocacy group for poor people; not exactly in the same league as the Energy Lobby, or the Club for Growth.
Let's not forget that in 2007-2008 a group of "Movement Conservatives" (love that term), were doing the exact same thing in California (paying people to collect signatures) while attempting to steal 22 of our state's Electoral Votes. This was the famous "Steal the State" Petition, that was illegaly funded by Rudy Giuliani backer, and hedge fund giant Paul Singer. Hundreds of (mostly out-of state) Conservative operatives were unleashed on California last year, and were caught on camera paying and/or buying alcohol for homeless people in return for them signing the petition. They were also caught lying through their teeth when questioned by passers-by about what exactly this "Electoral College Reform" proposition would mean for California. Ultimately their efforts failed, because we have a vigilant Democratic base here; many of us contacted local papers, protested, and got the word out about these Conservative wingnuts and their sham petition. But these types never give up; fast forward to September-November 2008. Now it's the Mormon Church who has unleashed it's money and army of fundamentalists to try and pass Prop. 8.
The notion that ACORN is perpetrating a fraud, or is somehow involved in a grand conspiracy to steal the election is beyond laughable. Rigging elections is a craft mastered by Conservatives, their corrupt State officials, and their U.S. Supreme Court appointees. No individual or organization will ever come close to damaging our democracy the way that Ken Blackwell, Katherine Harris, Jeb Bush and the 5 Justices who decided Bush vs. Gore did.
But it's much easier for Fox News and Conservatives to attack ACORN. Poor people don't have the resources to defend themselves from right-wing smears. Conservatives even managed to find a way to blame poor people for our economic collapse.... nice going fellas. There's a spacial place in hell waiting for people like Sean Hannity and Michelle Bachman; the ultimately irony is that Bill Ayers probably won't be joining them there.
by mrburns17 on Tue Oct 14, 2008 at 12:09:22 AM EST


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